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| Admin Techie Joined Feb 7, 2002 42 posts |
 Question of the month: April, 2008 |
Posted Apr 5, 2008; 11:26 am |
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This month's online poll:
Currently, the Canadian MB Conference allocates 1% of its budget to ICOMB. Do you think we should increase the amount?
Everyone can vote in this poll, even if you're not registered at MB Forum. |
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| CuriousAgnostic Joined Feb 5, 2008 28 posts |
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Posted Apr 5, 2008; 3:23 pm |
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That's the new product from Apple that styles your hair while you surf the web, right? 
http://icomb.org/
(I didn't vote) |
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| rudyhiebert Member Joined Oct 2, 2003 381 posts Location: Abbotsford BC |
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Posted Apr 5, 2008; 7:00 pm |
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Are you referring to the page in the Herald dated November 8, 1996?
http://old.mbconf.ca/mb/mbh3521/proposal.htm
We should know the result of that by now, don't you think? |
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| Bro Member Joined May 4, 2004 900 posts Location: Richmond B.C. |
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Posted Apr 6, 2008; 3:59 pm |
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I am a local M.B. I don't think we ever need an International conference.We a few years ago we got rid of the General(North American) conrerence.
I say the less conferences the better,even though Rudy Hiebert will probably disagree with me. |
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| Anamchara New member Joined Apr 28, 2003 4 posts |
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Posted Apr 9, 2008; 12:16 pm |
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The less levels of governance, the more grass roots (and possibly the more chaotic) it is. I voted no, not because I'm against ICOMB, but because the resources we have need to be applied more to action, less to meetings.
Cut back on Canadian conference costs and apply that money to ICOMB. |
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| rudyhiebert Member Joined Oct 2, 2003 381 posts Location: Abbotsford BC |
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Posted Apr 10, 2008; 10:08 am |
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| Bro wrote: | | I am a local M.B. I don't think we ever need an International conference.We a few years ago we got rid of the General(North American) conference. I say the less conferences the better, even though Rudy Hiebert will probably disagree with me. |
I hardly think of myself as conference junkie but wouldn't mind the jetting around the country to do it. Those who know me, know that I'm not a fan of some types of meetings though. Some types of conventions are essential and legislation requires them. On the other hand, there is a certain stigma of power attached to meetings and conferences. Take a minute to realize how much of our lives is run by people at meetings and conventions. Board rooms with large tables and people sitting in big black chairs, each with a bottle of water, are happening every day. Our days are not long enough to do anything about many of these discussions. However I'm of the opinion that the world is run by people who go to meetings.
If I tried to explain the chaos, it would point to our DNA and democratic roots; hardly agree that less governance would reduce it.
On: "Cut back on Canadian conference costs and apply that money to I.C.O.M.B." sounds like it comes from an uninformed perspective unless this perspective points to the accusation and/or suspicion that there is a need for wealth distribution. |
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| Anamchara New member Joined Apr 28, 2003 4 posts |
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Posted Apr 10, 2008; 10:06 pm |
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By "cut back on Canadian conference costs" I refer to the amount of money that is spent on flying board members across the country for meetings. Technology being what it is, I suspect we could have the same meetings, virtual face to virtual face for less than the cost of all that travel. And we could apply the saved money to ICOMB.
I'm not uninformed (have sat on boards of the Canadian conference) nor am I accusing or casting suspicions. Just thinking that there must be a better way to spend money than on travel.
I also wasn't saying that chaos was necessarily a negative thing. Most movements are characterized by a certain amount of necessary chaos, out of which a kind of creation arises (or at least creative endeavours). As the movement begins to institutionalize, the levels of governance increase (often) and the chaos decreases (often), and more of our resources end up being used to maintain the institution rather than the mission around which the movement was first created.
Hope this clarifies things. 
Last edited by Anamchara on Apr 14, 2008; 3:29 pm; edited 1 time in total. |
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| rudyhiebert Member Joined Oct 2, 2003 381 posts Location: Abbotsford BC |
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Posted Apr 14, 2008; 9:41 am |
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| Anamchara wrote: | | By "cut back on Canadian conference costs" I refer to the amount of money that is spent on flying board members across the country for meetings. Technology being what it is, I suspect we could have the same meetings, virtual face to virtual face for less than the cost of all that travel. And we could apply the saved money to ICOMB. |
Do you know how much these expenses are? I know that delegates use their AirMiles or simply don't request reimbursement. |
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| Anamchara New member Joined Apr 28, 2003 4 posts |
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Posted Apr 14, 2008; 3:27 pm |
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I'm not sure of exact figures. I only know that BFL and Executive Board have 3-5 meetings a year, each. Conventions and study conferences alternate years. However, I was thinking more of the possibility of applying some of the money spent on meetings, to ICOMB.
At the last convention in Calgary, John Wiebe asked if anyone had any good ideas for raising the whole budget that they require. That suggests that the money is not flowing from churches to CDN conference as much as it could. So my suggestion is that rather than ask for more money to send to ICOMB, we could reallocate some of what we have. |
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